http://cphconnect.org/forum/tags/data Concordia Publishing House Forum Tag: data en-US Thu, 23 May 2013 10:21:11 +0000 bbpress 1.0-alpha-2 q http://cphconnect.org/forum/search.php http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1999 Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:58:30 +0000 mrvito 1999@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Same problem. If you view in web layout, you'll see the stray characters. You can then move them to where they should be. Then change view to print view. I notice when you paste elements sometimes they aren't where you wanted them. You keep pasting and it just piles on the pastes in the same location. Move them, and delete the extras.<br /> Vito </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1908 Thu, 05 May 2011 14:54:07 +0000 Jeff Wade 1908@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Redford,</p> <p>Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. After testing the software using both Word 2003 and Word 2007, I believe we were able to duplicate your observations regarding the “phantom data” that was being printed. To duplicate this, we saved our Bulletin as “Letter, Full” under the layout in both versions of Word. We then changed the page layout in Word to make a bulletin, making sure it looked good. However, when we printed it there were Hymn numbers, Scripture references, and LSB page numbers exactly like you described. We also saved the Bulletin as “Letter, Folded” in Lutheran Service Builder in both versions of Word. We reviewed the documents on screen, seeing no errors, and printed them. Both documents printed off as expected with no errors.</p> <p>After testing other options, and changing the settings in Word, it is our observation that the “Right Justified – Sub-Categories” are what are creating the issue. If this is what you are experiencing, this can be verified in several ways:</p> <p>1. All of the issues occur in the right column of the printed document.<br /> 2. They should all be directly across a “bold faced” heading (e.g. Kyrie)<br /> 3. The issues should all be “italicized” (e.g. LSB 186)<br /> 4. The right edge (or last letter/number) of the intrusion should vertically be the same.</p> <p>The good news is that there are several ways to resolve this issue.</p> <p>The simplest would be to edit the way the Bulletin is printed following these steps:</p> <p>1. Entering the “Edit Bulletin” screen.<br /> 2. Clicking the furthest right icon in the tool bar that says “Layout”.<br /> 3. In the option of “Paper Size”, select “Letter/Folded”.<br /> 4. This will automatically readjust the location of the sub-heading.</p> <p>Another option would be to follow these steps:</p> <p>1. Entering the “Edit Bulletin” screen.<br /> 2. Right-Clicking anywhere where there is a sub-category (e.g. hymns, kyrie, readings).<br /> 3. Click “Edit Subcaption”, and delete the Subcaption.</p> <p>The final option is following these steps:</p> <p>1. Entering the “Edit Bulletin” Screen.<br /> 2. Click on “Format”.<br /> 3. Readings<br /> a. Caption Select: Holy Gospel: John 8:31-36<br /> b. Default Subcaption: Delete the information in the fill-box<br /> 4. Liturgy<br /> a. Caption Select: Agnus Dei: Agnus Dei<br /> b. Default Subcaption: Delete the information in the fill-box<br /> 5. Hymns<br /> a. Caption Select: Opening Hymn: 655 Lord,…<br /> b. Default Subcaption: Delete the information in the fill-box<br /> 6. Propers<br /> a. Caption Select: Collect of the Day: Collect<br /> b. Default Subcaption: Delete the information in the fill-box<br /> 7. Click “Ok”, and your changes should be saved, eliminating the problem.</p> <p>These should solve the issues that you brought to our attention. If you have any other issues, feel free to comment back. </p> <p>Thanks again for bringing this to our attention.</p> <p>Blessings on your service,<br /> Jeff </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1905 Mon, 02 May 2011 09:37:35 +0000 Bob Lail 1905@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Hi guys,</p> <p>Rick, you're absolutely right about the Word bookfold issue. Unfortunately, that's a glitch in Word!</p> <p>But the bits of text are very strange and puzzling. Redford, would you mind sending me a screenshot of what you're experiencing? You can email me (if you click next to my name where it says "LSB Developer" you should be able to see my email address).</p> <p>We'll test more here and see if we can reproduce the problem.</p> <p>Blessings,<br /> Bob </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1894 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 09:09:19 +0000 Rick Rostek 1894@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Very strange, and I would agree based on what you've said that the problem resides in what's coming out of LSB, not the receiving document. That said, I'm at a loss to explain it. </p> <p>I know this would be a hassle, but have you thought about completely uninstalling and reinstalling Builder? Also, by the sound of things, you have LSB 1 and LSB 2 installed on your machine. This is a shot in the dark, but I wonder if there's some strange interaction happening between the two (mixed up databases, or some such thing). I don't know enough about the file structures and programming to know one way or another. But perhaps removing LSB 1 would help. Like I said, a shot in the dark. </p> <p>Again, wish I could be of more help. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1893 Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:40:27 +0000 RedfordLuthOffice 1893@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Rick, thank you for your response. I have had the random bits both when creating from scratch and trying to update an existing file.</p> <p>It seems to have more to do with pasting in parts of the service taken from LSBuilder more so than the receiving document. It presents whether I go through LSB then create a bulletin through the software or if I simply use the copy/paste feature within the LSB for a specific bit.</p> <p>It does not make a difference if I use LSB 2.3.1.26192 or LSB 1.09 Build 2. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1891 Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:54:38 +0000 Rick Rostek 1891@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>As to the first issue on the musical images, I think you've run into the Word 2007/2010 Book Fold problem, and you've also identified the workaround: save your services files in Word 97-2003 format. That should eliminate issues with any inline shapes (like music images). </p> <p>As to the second issue, the random bits of text, I'd need the file to make anything more than a guess. A question that comes to mind is this: Are you creating your Word documents from a new, blank document, or are you importing your LSB output to an existing file where you erase the existing service and paste in the new one? </p> <p>If you're creating new file, then I wonder if you have a tab stop that goes beyond the margin in some of your paragraphs. That could cause text to appear on a different page in Book Fold mode, and may be why you cannot erase it. However, it wouldn't explain why you're getting unrelated hymn information in your file.</p> <p>If you're using an existing file, is it possible that not everything got erased from the existing file (like random hymn data)? It's just a thought.</p> <p>I wish I could be more help. Hope you get things resolved soon. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/lsb-to-msword-bug#post-1889 Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:23:34 +0000 RedfordLuthOffice 1889@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>This only happens when I use content from LSB and work it into a Word document. In Word 2007 it is a nightmare.</p> <p>In Word 2003 a little less so, but still have phantom data printing.</p> <p>It does not matter if I have LSB create the bulletin or use the copy/paste feature into an existing document.</p> <p>Here's what it does - in Word 2007 any bits of text that are near or with musical images loses it's placement. Looks fine on the screen but prints all the way over on the far edge of the opposite (printing) page. So on an 8 page document text from page 2 would show up on page 7 at the far side. The only way I can get it to stay put on page 2 is to insert it into a text box, and depending upon the format in the section it isn't always an option.</p> <p>So I save it to Word 2003. Now the text stays where it is on the screen image, but there are phantom random bits that show up which are NOT anywhere in the document. For example - a hymn reference for a hymn not chosen, nor listed, nor added. Plus it's outside the margin of the page, does not show up anywhere on the screen image, there's no coding that appears and all attempts to delete even a significant portion of the section do not affect it. It does not move up nor down and is not able to be chosen.</p> <p>Having to continually build services one piece at a time to a completely fresh document to avoid these things is cumbersome, time consuming and expensive (I get paid by the hour).</p> <p>Why is it doing this and how do we get it to stop? We've dealt with this even in the previous version of LSB (I have both versions, most recent releases).</p> <p>Thank you for your help. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-929 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:49:33 +0000 Bob Lail 929@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Pomeroy,<br /> This is a pretty significant update. Go ahead and turn it down until we release a patch that fixes the problem with extreme slowness on certain computers. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-923 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:15:14 +0000 Pomeroy Moore 923@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>I believe I completed the installation yesterday as reported. I'm showing version 2.1.11.19593. However, each time I open LSB 2 I get the following notice:</p> <p>Lutheran Service Book data update February 10, 2009<br /> Size: 15800.5KB</p> <p>Migration notes:<br /> This update contains a number of fixes and adjustments to the data included with Lutheran Service Builder. For more details on this change, please visit lutheranservicebuilder.com.</p> <p>If this is the same update I did that took 22 hours to complete I don't want to do it again. I'm afraid to let it run. Please advise. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-921 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:07:17 +0000 Jessica Stromberg 921@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Well how about this for my virus scan I am using the free version of AVG for my firewall I am using Zonealarm. Dell Dimension DM051 Intel Pentium D CPU 2.66 GHz, 2.50 GB of RAM </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-920 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:12:34 +0000 Ryan Markel 920@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Start &gt; All Programs &gt; Concordia Publishing House &gt; Lutheran Service Builder 2 &gt; Submit a System Report </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-918 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:57:39 +0000 Pomeroy Moore 918@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>My install finally completed in about 22 hours. When started program it asked to do another install dated Feb. 10, which I presume is the one I just finished installing, so I cancelled. Program seemed ok so I closed. Went to Program Files \ Concordia Publishing House \ Lutheran Service Builder 2, but didn't see 'submit a system report' or anything similar in the folders. Did see 'sendlogs.exe'. Is that it?</p> <p>I'm using a Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop purchased July 2005 with XP Media Center Edition Version 2002 operating now with Service Pack 3, Intel CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz, 795 MHz, 1.00 GB RAM and with 49.3 GB Free. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-917 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:04:17 +0000 Bob Lail 917@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>What differences are there between those computers?<br /> Does one have a 32-bit processor and the other a 64-bit one?<br /> Do they use different virus scanners?<br /> Are there any applications you think noteworthy that are installed on the desktop but not the laptop?</p> <p>Would you send one system report from each machine? (The system report sends a variety of that kind of anonymous information.) </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-916 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:20:51 +0000 Bill Sabol 916@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>I have the LSB installed on a Laptop and a desktop. Both are Dell XPS systems purchases within in the pat 12 months, so on the mid to higher end of permorance. The laptop installed the update in 5 minutes. The desktop, as I noted took something like 7 hours. </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-915 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:48:01 +0000 Bob Lail 915@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Go ahead and use Word and other things.</p> <p>"Submit a System Report" is in the your Start Menu: in Program Files \ Concordia Publishing House \ Lutheran Service Builder 2.</p> <p>Sorry for the egregious wait! </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-914 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:20:44 +0000 Pomeroy Moore 914@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>OK, is "System Report" from LSB 2 or from Windows? My install is still running after 19 hours with about 2 more green blocks to go. This is really holding me up from other work. Except for occasional email checks and forum updates I'm not doing anything else on the computer except running the installation. Would it slow things down if I use Word to work on other things? </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-913 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:57:14 +0000 Bob Lail 913@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>I wonder why some people's updates are going so slowly. It seems like the speed of the process varies so greatly that the difference is not just in your different hardware. Ryan and I will look into this a little more and see if there's something snagging for some people and not others.</p> <p>Pomeroy, would you send a "System Report" when your update process has finished? </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-912 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:54:19 +0000 Bob Lail 912@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>I would advise against ending sqlservr.exe! What the data update is doing is running a large number of SQL commands on the SQL Server. (These are basically applying all of the changes that Ryan has made over the last couple of months to your hymnal and lectionaries automatically.) </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-911 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:44:40 +0000 Pomeroy Moore 911@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Mine is going extremely slow also right now. What kind of setup on network can slow it down. I see sqlservr.exe NETWORK SERVICE is using about 50% CPU usage continuously. What happens if I end that process? </p> http://cphconnect.org/forum/topic/massive-data-push-incoming-to-all-users#post-900 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:51:55 +0000 Jessica Stromberg 900@http://cphconnect.org/forum/ <p>Mine went REALLY quick. Bill I what type of connection are you using? I am also wondering if there is a set up in your network which is slowing it down... </p>